2020 Amateur Draft Discussion Thread

Rich wrote:

Bumstead wrote:There is another option. We could just create draft lists in-game and you could run the draft in the game. I assume that would be the easiest of all for you. I am not opposed to this and it may be a good thing to do until we get everybody on the same page with the draft(s).

Jeff

I thought that didn't work correctly when we tried that in the redraft?

Also - Maybe we can do it in game 1 round a night and ever one send me a list of 25 players each night. I may be willing to draft from the lists if they aren't too complicated and I can figure out who you want. And possible in excel.

Bumstead wrote:There is another option. We could just create draft lists in-game and you could run the draft in the game. I assume that would be the easiest of all for you. I am not opposed to this and it may be a good thing to do until we get everybody on the same page with the draft(s).

Jeff

Bumstead wrote:

Rich wrote:plus I'm not sure the teams being skipped are being penalized. I'm picking the top available guy from their scout lists and if they pick later on- there a real good chance their top guy is still there. With scouting off- everyone lists are pretty much the same. There are some guys being picked that I haven't even considered yet.

But yes - the ideal situtaion is the utility is working.

Yeah...I just got my Scout's #2 guy in the 2nd round...I'm hoping for #3 in the 4th round!

Rich wrote:

Bumstead wrote:

Rich wrote:plus I'm not sure the teams being skipped are being penalized. I'm picking the top available guy from their scout lists and if they pick later on- there a real good chance their top guy is still there. With scouting off- everyone lists are pretty much the same. There are some guys being picked that I haven't even considered yet.

But yes - the ideal situtaion is the utility is working.

Yeah...I just got my Scout's #2 guy in the 2nd round...I'm hoping for #3 in the 4th round!

My scouts #1 guy is still out there- hoping to get him in the 3rd- If I don't decide to skip him again.

Bumstead wrote:

Rich wrote:plus I'm not sure the teams being skipped are being penalized. I'm picking the top available guy from their scout lists and if they pick later on- there a real good chance their top guy is still there. With scouting off- everyone lists are pretty much the same. There are some guys being picked that I haven't even considered yet.

But yes - the ideal situtaion is the utility is working.

Yeah...I just got my Scout's #2 guy in the 2nd round...I'm hoping for #3 in the 4th round!

Rich wrote:plus I'm not sure the teams being skipped are being penalized. I'm picking the top available guy from their scout lists and if they pick later on- there a real good chance their top guy is still there. With scouting off- everyone lists are pretty much the same. There are some guys being picked that I haven't even considered yet.

But yes - the ideal situtaion is the utility is working.

KMcBride wrote:

Bumstead wrote:Have you seen the OSA ratings of these guys? Very few have even reasonable ratings.

. . . which is why there would be an advantage to participating in the draft. But at least the non-participating teams get something.

I'm trying to wrap my head around this, and I've come to the conclusion that this is a very complicated problem. And I don't mean that to sound sarcastic; I'm being serious. The utility doesn't help us; in fact it seemed to create more problems. The system we are using right now is brutally slow, but besides that, even the predictability of knowing exactly when your pick is due hasn't helped owners get their pick, a list in on time. We cannot simply skip the teams that do not pick and punish them by waiving their draft picks forever, because that will damage the league in the long term. And we cannot find any agreed-upon "neutral" system for making a pick in someone's absence.

I think we can get through this draft using the forum, but once it is complete, I would really like to see us get a conversation going in the "Front Office" forum about how to do this differently in the future, so that everyone understands and is on the same page about what our priorities and goals are for drafts: efficiency or fairness? Ideally, I think we'd like both, but we are repeatedly being put in a position where we have to choose one over the other. Which is more important?

Bumstead wrote:

KMcBride wrote: I'm being serious.

I don't know why it is so hard for me to take Kendra seriously... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Bumstead wrote:

KMcBride wrote: I'm being serious.

I don't know why it is so hard for me to take Kendra seriously...

KMcBride wrote: I'm being serious.

Bumstead wrote:Have you seen the OSA ratings of these guys? Very few have even reasonable ratings.

joepott wrote:I downloaded the new file and the game is crashing. I can't get to my draft list in game. Is anybody else having this problem?



Hmm.....It is now downloading another file. Odd

joepott wrote:

Bumstead wrote:

KMcBride wrote:Okay, it's been almost 5 hours and none of the teams who were auto-drafted have posted a make-up pick in the Drafts forum. It occurs to me that if these teams were not on top of things enough to participate in the draft in the utility, what makes us think that they will wake up and participate here? And, more importantly, what happens if they don't?

Here is my proposal (I think this is how it works in the NBA? or maybe it's the NFL?):

I propose that if someone's time expires and their selection is not made and they have not prepared a draft list, then the next team scheduled to pick should be permitted to draft a player, and on and on. If the skipped team wishes to make a choice sometime later, they may choose from the players remaining and available to draft at the time they are able to pick. If they do not make a pick before the completion of the draft, their draft picks are waived. Obviously, this would not apply to rounds not done in the utility/forum, where scouts can generate draft lists for absentee teams for the simmed rounds.

Thoughts?

Then you will create shitty teams bordering on pathetic and you won't be able to find/keep owners for those teams.

Agreed. In my other league I had like 3 lost drafts, with high draft picks with the team I took over.

joepott wrote:So are we doing a round a day? I am soooo confused right now. There Jeff I lobbed you a soft ball, kind of like your pitchers do for me in game.

Bumstead wrote:

KMcBride wrote:Okay, it's been almost 5 hours and none of the teams who were auto-drafted have posted a make-up pick in the Drafts forum. It occurs to me that if these teams were not on top of things enough to participate in the draft in the utility, what makes us think that they will wake up and participate here? And, more importantly, what happens if they don't?

Here is my proposal (I think this is how it works in the NBA? or maybe it's the NFL?):

I propose that if someone's time expires and their selection is not made and they have not prepared a draft list, then the next team scheduled to pick should be permitted to draft a player, and on and on. If the skipped team wishes to make a choice sometime later, they may choose from the players remaining and available to draft at the time they are able to pick. If they do not make a pick before the completion of the draft, their draft picks are waived. Obviously, this would not apply to rounds not done in the utility/forum, where scouts can generate draft lists for absentee teams for the simmed rounds.

Thoughts?

Then you will create shitty teams bordering on pathetic and you won't be able to find/keep owners for those teams.